that Silvermaster was being investigated
by the FBI?
Dr. Condon: I was told by Mrs. Marsalka.
Mr. Tavenner: How did she obtain
Dr. Condon: She was told, I presume, by the Silvermasters, but I don't
really know that fact.
Mr. Tavenner: So although you knew
at the time you made this statement in
March of 1952 for publication in the
Congressional Record that he had been
investigated by the FBI, that there had
been testimony relating to him on the
part of Elizabeth Bentley, yet you were
willing to state to the public of the
United States that you do not believe
that he is other than a loyal American.
Don't you think it was a duty on your
part in the light of all of the information
that you had to make a further inquiry
before causing such a representation to
be circulated throughout the United
Dr. Condon : I have always been very
puzzled about the fact that these very
serious charges were made about Mr.
Silvermaster, and nothing was done in
the way of prosecution. This has sort of
led me to believe that although there
was testimony, that the testimony perhaps was not considered by the government to be very decisive. I prefer to
regard a man as innocent until he is
Mr. Tavenner: Yes, but is that an
excuse for you to publish throughout
the country your view that he is entirely
all right when you have made no inquiry
although you have been put on notice
about his disloyalty?
Dr. Condon: I am emphasizing the
fact that 1 have no reason to believe on
the basis of my own acquaintance or
association with him that there was anything wrong with him.
Mr. Jackson: Certainly you know
that the reason that no prosecution was
instituted against Mr. Silvermaster stemmed from the fact that he took his stand
upon the provisions of the Fifth Amendment. When you say that you were concerned because no prosecution had been
effected, he took his position upon the
Dr. Condon: I don't mean by the
committee; I mean prosecution instituted by the government as a result of
the FBI investigation. I don't claim to
know these things in legal terminology,
but here was a man about whom very
serious things were said, and presumably all right, and at the same time
nothing was done about it. So I supposed that perhaps further investigation
indicated that there wasn't anything
very serious there after all.
Mu. Jackson: Well, I will add that
there are a number of cases in the same
category, and he is not alone in that.
NO REASON TO DOUBT
Dr. Condon: It may be; I don't
undertake to say that Silvermaster is
necessarily right. I want to stress more
the fact that my own associations with
him gave me no reason to doubt anything improper in his behaviour.
Mr. Jackson: Not even subsequent
to the disclosures that were made?
Dr. Condon: I am referring to my
associations with him.
Mr. Jackson: But this was subsequent; your statement in the Congressional Record was a considerable period
after your associations with him, and
did not that tend to cast any new intelligence or any new light on the subject
so far as you were concerned, these
disclosures, because if I hear counsel
aright, the statement says that I have no
reason to believe that he is anything
other than a loyal American, and not
that he was anything else.
Dr. Condon: I am not sure that the
exact phraseology says that, but what is
meant is that I have no reason to believe
on the basis of my acquaintance and
knowledge of the case and that is all,
that if it seems to imply more than that
it is not intended.
Mr. Tavenner: It is not a matter of
implying, it is a matter of a statement.
The exact language is this:
"Nothing whatever in my association
with him gave me the slightest reason
to believe, and therefore I do not believe, that he is other than a loyal
Mr. Jackson: That, you will note, Dr.
Condon, is in the present tense.
Dr. Condon: That is perhaps a little
stronger than if I were writing it again
I would care to make it.
Mr. Jackson: These evidences that
he has extracted or others have extracted
from official files, documents which
were taken to him for photographing,
microfilming, is a rather serious situation. One who is guilty of it should certainly not be characterized as a good,
Dr. Covins: Thai is if he is guilty.
Mr. Jackson: If he is guilty. However, there is testimony which has not
been refuted, and certainly it seems to
me that one who is accused of treason
should take the very first opportunity
to deny it officially, if he is not guilty.
gory Masters, is u national coin"1'' .
man at large of the Communist 0
United States of America. Silvern*. M
was former agitation propaganda"~-
the Filmore subsection in the San I Df
cisco area, thirteenth district. Lo*\ doi
nisi party. '"'''
The post of national committecra»j'"n '
large of the Communist parly is at'"'' "
important post, and did you know M
thing about his being such a nattnecli
Dr. Condon: No, my first know In<h<
of lhat excerpt was when it was ■',
Congressional Record in June 0'i.-f''
year. I never had any indication o"
Mr. Velde: Had you known*
his being national committeenra* '»!
the Communist parly, would you !cl'uj'
have- staled that he was a loyal, pa"?' "
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Dr. Condon: Certainly not. I
that I can state that there is nobi
my acquaintance thai I know to
member of the Communist party.
don't think thai I have had to shun
because I don't think that I have
been aware of having met any. bu'
are none in my acquaintance, and
tainly would have fell differently
known these things.
KNOWS NO COMMUNISTS I)
Mr. \ i.i.in-.: Arc you acquainted '"•'
any Communists? Have you be*
quainted with any? "
Dr. Condon: Not to my knowl^ M
by that you mean people- who are .
i r ,l . »ive
Ice-is eel tin- party.
Mr. Velde: You have never kn^,
member of the Communist party? man
Dr. Condon: Not to know il'"'-1
was, and I won't say; I don't kn°"l V
is and who is not, but nobody ''que.
know who have been at the ti"*
I knew them.
Mr. Velde: Would you repeaf
Dr. Condon: What I am tr;
say is lhat there is no one, thcrejj,,,,
L L • el '""
has been anyone in my pel-"" |K
quaintaiii" who at the time I kne% (i
was a member, and
qualify ibis, of the Communist p1
America, and I would naturally fjp^,
that some of these- people iroi» .i
countries that are Commiinisl-il"1",
were probably members of the'*
SILVERMASTER RED PROPAGANDIST munist party, and even thai '
Mr. Velde: Dr. Condon, I suppose
thai you are familiar with this, but I
would like to read an excerpt from a
report of Mr. R. E. Greenfeld in rating, reviewing, and analyzing the Civil
Service Commission, dated July 16,
1912, in which it is stated he, Silver-
master, is listed in the files of the
Seattle Police Department as follows:
Gregory N. Silvermaster, alias Gre-
Mr. Velde: You testified tbul ( »a
know Nathan Gregory Silverman |
Dr. Condon: And I don't k"0' i
sure that he is a member of tin
nist parly, or was. This thing i"'i e
and I don't question it, but 1 * .
know it and there was nothing
acquaintance that indicated that- I
Mr. Velde: If you don't <lue5 pA
FACTS FORUM NEWS, JaroU**