As one who deeply shares your
ho requested |respec< and affection for the late President, I hope for your favorable con
Was an) rl
row it is exprej
■r states that
on on your loy
ething of that»
s a result of ••
sideralion to this appeal before it is too
late for me to join the party.
Edward I hler Condon.
Is that the letter which you wrote?
Dr. Condon: It sounds like it, and I
don't think that there are any discrepancies, from memory. It sounds correct.
Mu. Moulder: What is the dale cef
Mr. Tavenner: There is no date. Do
you recall approximately?
Dr. Condon: Ii would have been in
,1 Stales ill re? •'""'' "1 19-1-5 that this whole incident
Mr. Tavenner: Did you assign any
reason why Major General Groves op-
rot(, a l,-i i. -1 to j posed your going to the Sovicl Union
led States, butjat that time?
Department. Dr. Condon: Well, I think he op-
id you dictate tot posed, or I know he opposed the going
e Department, *of a number of people' who had had
Ice the Preside1 connections with the project.
t is rigbl. M"- Tavenner: There are other per-
urine the cour* Bons> t0°' tnat he registered an objection
■ eommillce has to, S°.inS'. *'h? had obtained knowledge
„i,;,.l, 1 "f scientific information in connection
kith the Los Alamos project?
Dr. Condon: Either had obtained ii
■sident: 1 ret or given u . gave more (han j 0D,ainPd
to overrule !» j„ ,),.„_ , |hi|lk
'i rcirard lo l"e
K. '/'. Coirt
i regara to «- Mr. Tavenner: 1 meant no re
" I"';'''"' "°j <>'' your conlriliuliiin.
,f Science, nil'1', l,li', (-"M»on: It always sounds as
■remade ) '," ""'' 'he project had some secrets
but having /ce«r?an.t! Wl' "'"' "'Xl'" 'hem. The secrets
o vrovide an /ffl'orl"lna'''d with the scientists and they
1 decide*^"e given to the project.
conscientiously Mr. Tavenner: You slated that Dr.
ty in the field Of I' rank Friedman Oppenheimer was one
oject with 'il'" "' 'hose who visited in your home. Thai
onnection. l/v " 's right, is i t?
finished jour ""' Dr. Condon: Yes.
Mr. Tavenner: How long had you
attention lo my known Dr. Frank Oppenheimer?
"/"' research f^ ,),,. CoN|,,,N . , (,, mp ^ j might hav(.
I .ueV11"'1 him earlier than going lo IScrkelcx
Ijirmwtth all* „„. ^ ^ ^J ^
"I .""'*'""" jknow him well, and so let us saj from
"'"'",' , , ,,iJSl'l'l''ml,er. 194S, on. at thai time.
- neceisan '" "' ' "hl'mpr admitted lo the committee
, \\'}at he had been a member of the
Tl'have Aee«#~-' party.
establishing ctP ""■ Condon
. Thai is rigbl.
,/ Ru* Mr. Tavenner: Did you know
parly? At that
/,-,-,/ forward ^""'"il'.-.sliii
■ns would pi r»"*J Dr. Condon: In th
myself by d*\ilinK he told me later.
tudy of ihe ft* Mr. Tavenner: When did he tell
,„„ to milium |)|( ,;()M)ONi j, is more or ,ess about
'" ""."'".'."„■, th" time „f those hearings, bill after be
my «■".'""/" :>dmiltcd it. and as a matter of fact I
"' ''"" /"'''' "','ythi'ik he iol,| „„. j„sl ., few hours before
the hearing that he was intending to
tell il. so lhat he would be honest with
me before coming to the meeting of
this committee, but I am not sure. It
may have been after, but my impression
was il was before.
Mr. Tavenner: Did he consult with
you about the advisability of bis telling
the truth about it?
Dr. Condon: No.
Mr. Tavenner: Do you recall having
met Dr. Frank Friedman Oppenheimer
al Idaho Springs in June of 1949?
Dr. Condon: Oh, yes.
Mr. Tavenner: Whai was the occasion of the meeting there?
CONFERRED AT IDAHO SPRINGS
Dr. Condon: There was a scientific
conference there on cosmic rays held
at the Idaho Springs High School Auditorium that was arranged by some
group, I think it was the Office of Naval
Research, and I have forgotten, but it
was a gathering of approximately one
hundred of the outstanding people in
the fide! "f cosmic ray research for a
discussion of research.
Mu. Tavenner: Al that time you
knew of his former membership in the
Dr. CONDON: Oh, yes; I think that
was right. Frankly I am not quite sure
when he appeared before this committee; if it was prior to thai then I
knew it. I must have known it at that
Mr. Tavenner: Yes, he testified before the committee on June 14. 1949,
the same month in which you say you
met him at Idaho Springs; and, now,
was that after the testimony or before?
Dr. Condon: I think it must have
been after; yes.
Mr. Tavenner: And in fail il was a
mailer of a few days, or probably not
more than a week?
Dr. Condon: It was very close there,
Mr. Tin inner: Did you learn thai
in his testimony before the committee
he staled thai his Communisl party
name was Frank Folsom?
Dr. Condon: I don't recall that, no.
Mr. TaVENNER: Were you acquainted
with another young scientist by ihe
name of Dr. Bernard Peters?
Du. Ciiniiiin: Yes.
Mr. Tavenner: Was Dr. Bernard
Peters i-ienni-c ted with the development
of ih" atomic bomb?
Dr. Condon: Yes, he was in the
Mu. Tavenner: Where?
Dr. Condon: At Berkeley.
Mr. Tavenner: Did you see Dr.
Bernard Peters al Idaho Springs at that
liinc. June of 1949?
Dr. Condon: Yes, he was there.
FACTS FORUM NEWS, January, 1955
Mr. Tavenner: Were Dr. Frank
Friedman Oppenheimer and Dr. Bernard
Peters acquainted with each other, to
Dr. Condon: We were all together at
Berkeley during the war.
Mr. Tavenner: And you were to-
gether at Idaho Springs in June of
1949; were you not?
Dr. Condon: That is right.
Mr. Tavenner: Arc you acquainted
with the fact that a news article appeared in a Rochester, N.Y., newspaper,
in which il was alleged that Dr. J.
Robert Oppenheimer testified before the
Committee on I n-American Activities in
executive session to the effect that Dr.
Bernard Peters was at one time a member of the Communist party in Germany?
Dr. Condon: Yes, Dr. Peters showed
me the clippings of ihe articles. They
appeared in the Rochester newspaper.
Mr. Tavenner: Did you obtain any
information relating to Dr. Robert Op-
penheimer's testimony in connection
with his appearance in executive session
before the Committee on Un-American
Activities from any source other than
the news article in Rochester, N.Y., in
the Rochester paper?
Dr. Condon: No.
Mr. Tavenner: Was an arrangement
made between Dr. Bernard Peters and
Dr. Frank F. Oppenheimer to go to
Berkeley, Calif., where Dr. J. Robert
Oppenheimer was residing, for the purpose eef giving Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer a thorough questioning about
his alleged testimony before this commit!"" relating to Dr. Bernard Peters?
Dr. Condon : I am not sure, and an
arrangement would imply definitely
planning it. and I think those two fellows were going—you understand Frank
Oppenheimer is the younger brother of
Robert Oppenheimer, and I think lhat at
the end of ihis meeting in Colorado
they were both going on to California
anyway, and in the normal course of
events would discuss this with Robert.
Mr. Tavenner: Well, you say "normal course of events." Actually, didn't
llit-\ decide in advance before the closing of the meeting that they would go
to Berkeley for the purpose of giving
a thorough questioning
Dr. Condon : That may be the case.
Ms. Ta\ enner: To Dr. Robert Oppenheimer?
Dr. Ciiniiiin: I was not personally and
directly involved in this, and I discussed
il a great deal with them. Peters was
very unhappy about it.
Mr. Tavenner: Well, you took part
in the discussion, which resulted in
their decision to do that; did you not?
"NOT TRYING TO EVADE"
Dr. Condon: I took part—since I
don't remember the decision, I don't
remember—I am not trying to evade, I