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all courses about communism had been
dropped. Moreover, he said any dispassionate discussion of communism on the
part of a faculty member would arouse
the investigators and the members of the
What do you students think about
Mr. Reisman: No, I don't think there-
is any objection whatsoever to teaching
about communism; they do it in all the
social science courses. On the contrary,
there are many more objections to teaching about capitalism. Much more propaganda is given to the side of communism
and socialism rather than capitalism.
Mr. Wright: I wouldn't say that it
was actually communism or socialism, at
leasl I wouldn't say it was consciously
known that this was the case. 1 think
that the majority of your professors are
liberally inclined and cannot help but
bring their bias into the classroom. 1
don't really think that they are aware of
their intellectual dishonesty.
Mr. Raico: Not only is there no hesitation in discussing communism from an
anti-anti-Communist point of view in the
social science classes, but this enthusiasm
for discussing communism even goes into
the foreign language courses, even goes
into sociology courses. My German instructor, for instance, took some time out
of class to call Dr. Bella Dodd "a paid
informer." And this is in all the classes;
there is absolutely no hesitation.
Moderator Burt: Now we have the
specific thing here that Paul Hoffman
mentioned—any dispassionate discussion
of communism on the part of a faculty
member. Dispassionate — he certainly
doesn't have to be pro-Soviet Union in
discussing communism. Do you know of
any colleges or universities where the
dispassionate study of communism is outlaw ed'.'
Mr. Reisman: I know of none, none
whatsoever. Perhaps if Mr. Hoffman had
had just a little bit more courage, he
might have mentioned the name of the
university, and perhaps we'd know il il
were hue or not.
Mr. Wright: My experiences are, of
course, confined to Yale pretty much.
There his statement has no application
whatsoever. I know of no political science course where Communist theory is
uot looked into, and the philosophy-
course called "Marxism" is a complete
course in Marxism.
Mr. Raico: The theory of communism
is being taught all the time, and no pressure groups get anywhere in the City College. As a matter of fact, there are some
very powerful pressure groups, only they
are all working from the other side. I'd
like to hear a "dispassionate discussion." Really, I would, because the only
discussions that I've heard of are all
passionate, only from the other side—
from the anti-anti-Communist side. The
FACTS FORUM NEWS, January, 1955
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Paul G. Hoffman
chief threat is always taken to he Mc-
Carthyism; for anyone to defend capitalism would be considered a joke.
\lu. Reisman: I think there is evidence to support a statement I made
earlier—that more is being taught about
communism and socialism and capitalism—by the fact that the overwhelming
majority of students do not know what
Moderator Burt: Well, what is capitalism?
Mr. Reisman: My definition would
be a restriction of governmental functions to merely protecting life, liberty,
and property of its citizens from violent
attack by other people. To inc. capitalism does not mean government support
of corporations through subsidies or
government support of farmers; but this
is what most college students think capitalism is.
Mr. Wright: I'm pretty much basically, in agreement. I'd like to expand it
a little. Capitalism, to me, means more
non-intervention of government into
business whether it's in the field of mon-
elaiv controls, subsidy for industries.
and other things of that nature.
Mr. Raico: I'm in substantial agreement with these definitions. I want In
point out one fact—that, unquestionably.
both from the' poinl of view of economics
and from the point of view of history,
capitalism is the only system that has
ever worked; it's the only system. Mid
ibis is the- standard the left-wingers apph
lo everything else standard of workability, and it's applied. They don'l apply it in the field of economics. Capitalism is the system that built America, and
it built England until England gave
Moderator Burt: Lei's continue
with Paul Hoffman's article in ihe Neu
York Times Magazine, "To Insure the
End of Our Hysteria," and I quote from
"Later, ai an eastern university, the
president of a student body told me thai
students were shrinking away from joining any organization, however long it had
been a campus fixture, if it could be regarded in any way as having liberal ten-
ileneies. They were afraid—afraid of the
fantastic ways in which thai association
might one clay be twisted to ruin their
Would you like to comment on thai?
Mr. Raico: The most powerful political organizations at City College are' the
11)1! 'i oung Democratic Club, the
Young Liberals. Students for Democratic Action, and incidentally, a Labor
Youth League, which is a pro-Communist student organization. And the only
even relatively right-wing groups, the
Robert A. Taft Young Republican Club
ami the Students for America Chapter
al Cit) College, arc very small and \e-r\
Mr. Wright: As I said earlier, the
John I >c\\ ey Society. an affiliate of the
League for Industrial Democracy, is
fairly active at right-wing Yale organizations. I would say the characteristics
implied by Mr. Hoffman apply more to
right-wing organizations. I know last
year some friends of mine and I started
an organization called the Independent
Library in the interest of preserving
academic freedom by presenting conservative views in the fields of economics, sociology, political science, and
so on, since we felt these views were
either refuted without being explained
or rendered obsolete through neglect in
the' classrooms. Now, we were attacked
shortly after our opening on a radio
program on the Yale Broadcasting System, and we have met with laughter and
scorn and derision quite often throughout our experience.
Moderator Burt: In other words,
are you saying lhat the liberal organizations operate quite openly, but ihe
conservative organizations (if they can
he called thai I operate under some opposition?
Mr. Wright: I would say more than
the liberal; yes. quite a bit more.
Mr. Reisman: In connection with an
organization Ralph mentioned, called
Students for America, there have been
persistent rumors at Columbia that this
organization was attempting to organize
a chapter. The Illinois weren't true
though, but the reaction to an unfounded minor was something fantastic. There
was a series of editorials in the campus
newspapers attacking the organization, a
tremendous exchange of letters. I was
called In the Dean's ollice and asked if il
were true, were we going to organize?
lev the- way, he promised his support in