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that the facts of each case would determine the answer.
Have you made anv- plans for it, or
looked ahead to it?" inquired Mr. Sylvester.
No, we take these cases one at a
Mine." replied Mr. Brownell. "So far.
•here is no doubt that great progress is
being made in the integration of the
Schools. This has been done in an
Orderly way without the necessity of
any action by the courts of the type
•hat you suggest."
*>ood Integration Examples Cited
Pointing to Louisville, Washington,
0. C, ancl Baltimore as cities where
Integration has been effected in an
Itcouraging manner, Mr. Rrownell
■.pressed the opinion that in many
jargc areas of the country, especially
"1 the- border states, substantial progress was being inacle-, and the hope
'hat eventually steady progress would
be made in the same manner through-
lit the seventeen states that did not
■ve integrated schools at the time of
■he Supreme Court decision.
Mr. Sylvester asked, "Is there, as a
latter of fact, any way provided under
"Ur form of government, in which the
Supreme Court or the Federal Court
-an enforce its decision?
It seems to me," he continued, "that
he ol our presidents — was it Jeffer-
0n? — said in thc case of Chief
ttstice Marshall, 'Now, let him e-n-
'orce the- decision, having made it'?"
That, to my mind, was never a very
B-inclusive statement," demurred Mr.
jrownell, "because the primary way
s been shown recently when the
pvernors of several of the border
ptes, realizing that the states have
'1st as much obligation as the federal
pvernment to see that court orders
le carried eiut. went ahead, and in the
formal wax- under our system of gov-
■tnment, took the necessary steps.
Now, that would be the usual
'-'ay," he added. "As you noticed, the
•outhern governors at their conference
[dinted that out, and the President has
Pointed it out in press conferences
Bo. There has been no indication that
'' is necessary to go farther."
Mr. Mollenhoff asked if the briefs
Inich the Attorney-Genera] had been
Weed to file supporting desegregation
'ad injured the Republican position in
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the South and jeopardized Republican
chances of carrying southern states in
the election which, at the time of this
interview, was in the offing.
As far as the Department of Justice
was concerned, Mr. Brownell felt
there should be no partisan aspect
whatever to the handling of the desegregation ruling.
"In this, as in every other thing that
we have to handle in the Department
of Justice," he emphasized, "we are-
going to do what we think is the right
thing to do from the standpoint of the
public welfare and the law of this
country regardless of consequences."
The impression was voiced by Mr.
Sylvester that the element of politics
was injected into this issue by Vice
President Nixon, who bad hailed the
decision as one led by a great Republican Chief Justice.
"I have heard that argument," replied Mr. Rrownell, "but after listcn-
ing to both sides of the matter, I felt
that it was not any deliberate attempt
to inject politics into the- situation."
"The minute you characterize a
Chief Justice by cither party you introduce a political note, elo you not?"
insisted Mr. Sylvester.
Mr. Brownell reiterated that under
all the circumstances in that case, he
felt there- was no intention of bringing
in party politics.
Now You See It — Now You Don't
"Mr. Mollenhoff, Mr. Sylvester," inserted Mr. Hurleigh, "could I interject for the benefit of clarification that
we have a situation here where disagreement has arisen over the placement of a comma. In Mr. Nixon's
earlier remarks regarding the Chief
Justice, there are those who feel that
he said 'a Republican Chief Justice.'
while others interpreted his remarks
as 'a great Republican, comma, Chief
"In a conversation of this kind,"
interposed Mr. Rrownell, "1 think we
ought to look at the broad aspect of
the picture. I think that the local officials in the areas where this is a great
social problem have- done a guild job.
The law enforcement officials of both
federal and state governments have
likewise used their utmost endeavor to
see that the integration decision is
carried forward in an orderly way. I
do not think we should flash back in
anv way the progress that has been
made. It has been remarkable and
fine, and I look forward to a continuation in the same spirit."
Mr. Mollenhoff inquired whether
the Republican administration should,
in Mr. Brownell's opinion, have credit
for the progress that has been made on
integration in southern schools.
"I believe that you will find," replied Mr. Brownell, "that the whole
program of civil rights has received
great impetus in the Eisenhower
administration, ancl that in many areas
progress has been made which is to
their credit — not only in this particular area about which we are talking,
but in seeing to it that government
contracts are awarded without regard
to race or color, and that discrimination is abolished in the armed forces
as well as in the District of Columbia
government, in seeing to it that in
interstate commerce there shall be no
racial or color discrimination in transportation facilities.
"I think it should be noted," he
summed up, "that the Republican administration has made great progress,
ancl that forceful leadership has been
Who Pays the Freight?
Mr. Mollenhoff, always on the alert
for news values in looking at "the
other side of the coin" inquired, "How-
can vein take credit without assuming
the political liability?"
"Well, as I tried to intimate a little
while ago," replied Mr. Brownell, "I
think that as far as political conse-
quences are- concerned, they all follow
naturally. However, we want to point
out our record in this matter: it is the
sincere belief of the President that by
public education and leadership we
can solve this discrimination problem
and reach the goal that the Constitution laid out for us that there should
be no second-class citizens in this
country, and that people should be
regarded on their merits, and not discriminated against just because of
their color or their race."
"I take it then, Mr. Attorney-General, that you endorse the decision of
the Supreme Court on desegregation?"
inquired Mr. Sylvester.
Mr. Rrownell replied that he felt
his own opinion in this matter had
been pretty well set forth in the briefs
that had been filed by the Attorney-
General's office at the request of the
Supreme Court in school integration