country you were to go to?
A. It came—he said I would have to
go via Mexico, but be didn't give me
the complete information as to thai until
a little later.
Q. Now when wets the nexl conversation with Rosenberg on this subject?
A. Well, il was after m> wife came
oul of the hospital after giving birth to
our youngest child.
Q. Aboul w Inn was that?
\. ll wa- Alee\ il wee- May 22 ur 2.1.
something like that.
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Q. I p eit your apartment?
\. \t my apartment.
Q. Tell us whal he- ~;rirI and whal vou
A. Ami In- came into the apartment,
ami he heul a Hernial Tribune in his
hand with a picture nf Harry Gold mi it.
Ami hi' saiel. "This is tin- gentleman who
came In sea- Mill in All>uipii'l'i|ue.
Q. Is lhal ihe copy e,f the Herald
Tribune carrying the case of Harry
delil's eirrcsi for espionage?
A. That is right.
Q. What eli.l he say?
A. lb' seiiel. "Ihis is the mem who
setw vou in Albuquerque."
I leiokeel eil il. and I said I couldn I
tell from thai picture, and he seiiel.
"Don'l worry, I am telling you this is
the ni.in and you will have to go out—
miu will have hi li-eiM' the country," and
le -.MM- nn' ei thousand eleillars then and
seiid le would give me six thousand
dollars more. We then wenl fur a walk.
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Q, The firsl plena- miu were tn go tei
A. Thai is right. First I was In go In
Ihi' border area ami eit the border area
gel a tourist card. In other words, nol
to get the tourist card eel some Mexican
Consulate in this city hut to wait till
we gel lo the border.
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A. . . . lb- then told me I would have
to have passport pictures made up.
Q. Passport pictures?
A. Of myself, my wife and my
family, ami also In' gave mi' ei certain
form letter tei memorize and sign
"I. Jackson" al lhe end of the letter.
This letter was lo he used when I gol
lei Mexico City. I wets to write to the
Secretary tn the Ambassador uf the
Soviel I nion and stale' in thai letter 1
don't recall completely right now hut
something in the effect aboul ihe posi-
tion of lhe Soviel I nion in the 1 \.
O. Something favorable nr unfavorable?
A. ll was favorable.
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\. Then I was tn wail three days at
some place first, of course, in gel ;i
place Ui stay, some plena' away frnm
the- ea'nteT eif tnwn. Then I weis In go
with a guide to the eit) in my hand
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A. with my middle finger in the
between lln1 pages of the guide go
lo a place called Plaz de let Colon and
look at tin- sieeiue- .if Columbus there
eiml ihis would he aleeutl five 0 clock in
ih.- afternoon, three days after I had
si'ttt ihe letter.
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\. I wees then tn weeil until some m.in
weis tn come up close to nn* and then I
would sei\. "Thai is a magnificent
sieetue." emd thai I weis frnm Oklahoma
and I hadn't seen a statue like it before.
—Wide World Photo
Only two news photographers remained as Sing Sing Prison guard peered through fence
following the execution June 1?, 1953. of Atom Spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in the
Ossining, N. Y., prison's death house.
\nil litis man was In say, "Oh, there
eire much more beautiful statues in
Penis." Thai wees tee hi' inir identification.
Then he was In give me m) passports
ami additional money so thai I could
go mi wilh mv trip. 1 wets then sup-
posed In continue nn probably vi;i Vera
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A. and then to Sweden or Switzerland, one or the other. I would in
Sweden I weis to go to the' sleilltc nf
Linnaeus in Stockholm and repeal
after sending a letter In the Ambassador
eef the Seivie-I I nion lo lhe Seerelal}
of the Embassador of the Soviel I nion
—with the same Ivpe of letter and also
"I. Jackson' eis the signature again.
I would then go three days later to
the statue- of Linnaeus and with a guide
in hand, with my finger in the place,
and ee man would come up to the statue
aboul the same time in the evening,
aboul five o'clock, and I would repeal
thai il wets a beautiful statue, a magnificent statue something to thai effect,
and the man would sav. "There arc
much more beautiful ones in Paris."
and lliell was to make' our contact.
Then hi' wets in give me my means of
transportation in Czechoslovakia, and
thai is where I was lei go.
Q. Weis thai tee In- your permanent
A. Suppose.(||v thai Was where I weis
supposed Ui go; s,, far eis whal went
afler lhal I didn't know.
Q. Did Rosenberg tell Mm whal m'"
were lo do when you arrived in Czechoslovakia?
\. Yes, In' did.
Q. Wheel eliel It,' tell you?
\. Ih- lold mi' iii write In the Embassador uf lhe- Su\ iel I nion eunl -ell
that I weis here.
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Q. Diel vou have any further conversation wilh Rosenberg nn thai < 1;i> •'
\. W ell. that weis the end of the conversation on lhal dee\ excepl thai he
said thai he probably thai he heul I"
leave the country himself, eunl he was
making plans for it. Ami I said, "Why
you?" He seiiel ilmi he wee- ei friend
thai he knevi Jen,eh Golos, this man
Golos, eiml probably Bentley knew him-
Q. And thai he himself wees going '"
leave the country, is thai right?
V. Ami thai he himself was going
to leave the country.
Q. \nw was there any further conversation with Rosenberg on thai occasion ?
\. Only thai he asked me to memorize ii and gel everything attended "'
the passport photographs.
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Q. Did he tell you exactly what I"'
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