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Ethel and Julius Rosenberg
Q. By "H.E." you mean heavy explosive?
A. High explosive.
Q. Did you put that information in
Ihis reporl?
A. Thai is right.
Q. That was before the explosion bad
taken place?
A. Thai is right.
Q. How lung before the explosion?
A. Aboul ei month before ii was
a little more' than a month before.
Q. \<iw. diel Rosenberg ever sen anything lo you about anv reward that he
bad received from the Russians for the
Work thai he had been doing?
\. He stated thai he heul gotten a
watch as a reward.
0. Did be show you thai watch?
A. He did.
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Q. Can vou remember when Rosenberg lold vou aboul lhe watch?
\. I believe ii wets in January, I1'15.
Q. During vour furlough in January,
I'»I5?
A. Yes.
Q. Did he ever mention anything else
thai In- or his wife heul received as ;t
"wenel frnm the Russians?
A. His w ife- received also ;i watch, ei
Woman's watch, and I don'l believe it
*as at the same time.
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Q. Now, was there' anything else- lhal
they received which they lold vou aboul?
V I believe they told me they revived a console table From lln- Russians.
[At this poinl the day's questioning
''"ds and is resumed again the following
0«y, Ma reh 13, 1951. |'
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0. Mr. Greenglass, I ihink yesterday
afternoon you told us thai Rosenberg
told you thai he had received ei watch
fr"in the Russiems: is that correct?
pACTS FORUM NEWS, May, 1955
V Ileal is correct.
Q. Diel he tell you he received anything along wilh lhal watch?
A. Ih- seiid he received ei citation.
Q. Diel he describe the citation al all?
A. He said il had certain privileges
with il in case be ever wenl lo Russiee.
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Q. Do yuu remember Rosenberg vis-
iting Mm in February of 1950?
A. "I do.
Q. How do you fix lhe date of lhal
visit?
A. Well, it wets a few days after I'm lis
was taken in England.
Q. A few days after lhe news of Dr.
Fuchs1 aire's! in England appeared in
the papers: is lhal right?
A. lhal is right.
(,). Where elid this conversation wilh
Rosenberg occur?
A. Partly in mv home and partly on
the streel and in a park.
(,). Did il begin al your home?
A. Yes. il did.
Q. Will you tell us just whal happened when he arrived there and what
happened after that: what hi' said and
whal you said?
A. He came up lo mv apartment and
awakened me-. It was aboul in the middle of lhe morning, I slept late because
I work al night. Ih- seiiel thai In- would
like me' to go for ei walk wilh him, and
we wenl down the slrce-t. down She-riff
Street, toward lhe Hamilton Fish Park.
Ami we weilke-el eireiinul tbe park, eunl in
lhe park, eunl during tin- walk he- spoke
lo me uf Fuchs.
He lold mi', he said, "You remember
tbe man who came In sea- you in Albuquerque? Well. Fuchs weis also one of
his contacts"; and this man who came
lu see- me' in Albuquerque would undoubtedly be arrested soon and. if so.
would lead to me.
Q. You mean this is whal Rosenberg
lold you?
A. Thai is righl. And Rosenberg seiid
Pi me that 1 would have In leave the
country; think il over, ami we will make'
plans In go. Well, I told him lhal I
would need money lo pay my debts
heuk s,e I weiuld he able lo leave wilh el
clear head, and Rosenberg seiiel lhal hi'
didn't ihink il weis necessary in worn
aboul ii. Bul I insisted mi ii. ,so he seiid
In- would gel the money fur me from
lhe Russians. We then wenl nn lu see\ I
protested further—
Q. Tell us what Nun said.
A. I seii.l. "I wouldn't he able lo"—I
dieln'l ihink il was wise lo go right lo
the Consulate here eiml ask fur a passport, ami In- said, "Oh. they let other
people nut who are more importanl than
vou are." eunl I said. "Is lhal so?" Ami
he said. "Yes. Well, they Id Ran nul.
Joel Barr. ami hi' was a member 'if our
espionage ring.'
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A. Well, the conversation 11111111111131
—Wide World Pteoto
Harry Gold (right) admitted aiding Dr.
Klaus Fuchs in passing atomic secrets to
Russia. He also served as go-between for
Greenglass and the Rosenbergs. Arrested in
May, 1950, after Fuchs gave FBI agents his
description, Gold pleaded guilty and was
sentenced to thirty years' imprisonment.
feu a little while, and he said. "You'll
jusl have' lo leave, eunl 1 want to"—oh.
I eelse, seiiel tei him. "Why doesn't ibis
other gu) fellow leave, the one who
came in nn- in Albuquerque?" And he
seiiel. '"\\ ell. iheil's something else again,"
emd I wenl back home after that.
(,). Diel miu have any further conversations with Rosenberg ;il later limes?
A. Yes.
Q. About leaving the country?
\. Yes. I did.
Q. W ill you tell us when the nexl conversation toeik plena'?
\. We-ll. my wife weis in lhe hospital:
she heul been badly burned in an accident, eunl il weis ellioul the middle of
April, ii wa- jus| eiheeui after before
she came oul nf the hospital. Julius came
in sr(. me, eiml he seiiel I weuilil have In
leave ihe- country eiml well, thai was
about the uisl of lhe conversation.
Q. Ih' told vou again lhal you were'
lei leave; is lhat righl?
A. Yes; eunl that he wanted me in go.
Then again there was—
Q. Heul hi' given miu anv money up
in ihis point?
\. No. im money wees given lo me up
lo this point.
Q. W Inn was lln- nexl conversation?
A. lhe nexl conversation weis after
my wife heul gotten nil! of the' hnspilell
aboul Ma) nr just before -i weis probably a little before Mav. ami he came up
to my apartment in order tei gel sl)nir
slncks from me. s,,)it,. shelves lhal I had
feu ei Imsiiiess enterprise I wees in wilh
him. And he' al litis lime told me lhat I
would have In leave the country eis soon
as possible: he would gel the information fur me In leave. Then
Q. Was there any discussion nf the
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