identification with the person who
v.ould come out to see us. . . .
h was -si ilee- point that thi plan to
meet in Denver was discarded, .1 ml 1
suggested the Safewa) store, meeting the-
person we were to meet eil a Safeway
store, outside, outside of the Safeway
store', iii Albuquerque, and ihis was
thought to be ;i prett) good iele'ee. lhe
exact date was lefl in abeyance, since
m) vv ill- would follow me' nul lo All.II-
querque later .mil lhal could In- sel In
thai lime. I mean, hclwct'11 when I lilt
lee tin back le. I..i- Alamos ami when she
es -re ■-■
O. Wei- there any further conversation between you and your wife and the
Rosenbergs on lhal evening?
A. Well, the- Rosenbergs told nn wife
lhat she wouldn't have to worry about
money lee-eeiu-c ii would be' taken care
of I mean, she would lie able lo gel
mil there ami live' out there, if she
wasn't able to work, the mone) would
Q. W as thai in your presence?
A. In nn presence.
Q. Both of them said that?
A. Julius, and Ethel backed il up.
Earlier in the evening, during these conversations, my wife hail remarked lo
Ethel lhal she had looked kind of
tired emd she ~ni.l she weis tired because
Q. Who said this.'
A. M) wife had remarked lo Ethel
thai she lookeel tired.
Q. Ethel looked tired?
A. And Ethel remarked lhat she was
tired between the child and staying up
late al night, keeping typing over notes
that Julius had brought her ihi- was
(,l. Did sh,. s.u that?
\. Sin- seiid "in this work." She also
stated thai she didn't mind il so lone as
Julius was doing whal he wanted In do.
Q. During this evening, was any reference made by either of the Rosenbergs
to ihe material which you had turned
over lo Julius a couple of days before?
A. Well, wi' discussed the lenses we
generally talked shop about what I had
done at i.os Alamos, and we discussed
lenses all during this evening and, you
km.w. whatever was going on eit I.os
Alamos, s. jenti-is
Q. W as am thine said about
A. Scientists, of thai nature; things
of lhal nature; eiml In- said thai In'
would like to meet somebod) ss In
talk lo me more aboul lenses.
Q. Hiel he tell you who this
he' u eentcd vou lo meet was':
A. lb- said it was ee Russian h
eel me in meet.
Q. Diel he give v mi any furtln
tification on that night?
Q. Did anything further come of Ju-
—Widn World Pholo
Interrogator Roy Cohn
lius' statement thai he wanted you to
disCUSS this |eiis wilh lhe lell-si.ni.
Q. Tell US.
A. A few nights letter we'll, em appointment was made for me to meet a
Russian on First Avenue, between 12nd
and 59th Streets ii was In lhal area.
Q. W Im made the appointmenl ?
A. Julius made lhe appointment.
Q. When was it in relation to tin- elin-
eie'i meeting in January ?
A. It weis a few days after. I look m\
father-in-law's car eiml drove up there'.
Il was aboul eleven-thirt) al night. I
remember coming up the slreel. Il was
quite dark, and there weis a lighted window. I passed that in parking it wees ei
saloon—-I parked up the block from it.
and in a little while Julius came around
lhe- corner, looked into the eat. -aw win,
I was: said. "I will be right back";
brought back a man; introduced the
man to me bv firsl name, lhal I don't
recall al Ihis lime-, and lln man got into
ihe' car wilh me. Julius stayed right
there, and we drove around
O. W he'll you seiv "Julius slaved right
there, weis Julius in the car or nol ?
\. He was nol in the ear.
O. lie merely effected the introduction?
—Wids World Phots
A. He just introduced me lo him.
Q. And remained on the street'.
A. And remained on the street.
Q. Where did you drive?
A. Well, we- dime all over lhal area,
lb- just lold me to keep driving and I'1'
asked questions aboul lenses.
(,). Diel he ask you specifically aboul
this high explosive lens'.'
\. He- did. lb' asked aboul high explosive lenses ami hi' wanted to km'"
pertinent information, type of HI
Q. Slrike ..nl "pertinent." I'll "'
whal he wanted to know.
A. lb' wanted to know the formula
of the curve on the' lens: he- wanted l"
know the H.E. used, and means of detonation; anil I elreivi' around . . . and I""
ing very busy wilh my driving. I didn'
pen in,, much attention lo whal In- »;1"
senim.:. bul the things lie wanted '■"
know. I had no direct knowledge of, ana
I couldii I give a positive' answer.
Q. About how long did this drivf
with the Russian last?
\. About twenty minutes or so.
',). Where diel it terminate?
A. At lhe same- place theii il orig1'
Q. Dill \eeil see- Julills 11.IV IllOI'C "I1
\. 1 es; he came back I mean I"'
weis around there, and lhe Russian r"
■ ml and thev wenl off together, and
drove back home.
<,). Did Julius "ive you any instl'"',
lions as lo wheii- vein should go "'".
what you should do after you conclude
Ihis drive wilh the man whom vou '''
scribed as "a Russian"? ...
A. lb- said, "Go home' now. 1 w
slen wilh him." He was going lo ha*1
something to eat with him.
Q. Did you in fait return home?
A. 1 went home'.
0. Did you tell your w ife where )'"
had been? ,
A. Yes, I lold my wife' where I "
Q. Now. I ihink you told us y°u a
rived in New York on this full"1"
January 1. I'115: is that correct?
A. That is correct. . „
Q. Aboul when did you leave P
^ oik anil return In I.os \lamos?
V \b.eiii the twentieth.
','. Diel Venn wife' go with vou?
A. She' did not go with me. ,
',). Did there come a time w In"
joined vou al Albuquerque?
A. She did.
0. Will you tell us when that »1,5'j|
\. That was in ihe sprinf-'lim''',(
uee- eel.,,ui March or April early
March, early April. I ihink.
Q. Of 1045?
A. Of 1015.
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