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Facts Forum. Facts Forum News, Vol. 5, No. 10, October 1956 - File 038. 1956-10. University of Houston Libraries. University of Houston Digital Library. Web. September 25, 2017. http://digital.lib.uh.edu/collection/1352973/item/1609/show/1577.

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Title Facts Forum News, Vol. 5, No. 10, October 1956
Series Title Facts Forum News
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  • Facts Forum
Publisher Facts Forum
Date October 1956
Language eng
Subject
  • Anti-communist movements
  • Conservatism
  • Politics and government
  • Hunt, H. L.
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  • Dallas, Texas
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  • journals (periodicals)
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  • Text
Identifier AP2.F146 v. 5 1956; OCLC: 1352973
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  • University of Houston Libraries Special Collections
  • Energy & Sustainability Research Collection
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Transcript gss= n will be allowed into the plant. "The Subcommittee has expressed its appreciation to all parties for their cooperation in reaching this solution," he continued. "You see, we, the Subcommittee, could not allow it to appear that the man had lost his job just because he had come forward to testify. As you know, the only evidence that a committee such as ours can obtain about the secrets of the Communist underground is from the witnesses themselves — from the people who have been in the Communist conspiracy." "From the people who come forward to tell their story," inserted Doherty. "Yes," acknowledged Mr. Morris. "That is our only source. And if we begin to seal up that source, we'll no longer have any information. All these great secrets will have been lost." Former Affiliations A Starting Point "Now, to answer your question," he continued, "the testimony of ex-Communists can be evaluated and gauged probably more accurately than can the testimony of another witness because as a starting point you have that person's association with tbe Communist Party. You know what it is, and you are able to evaluate it. Operating from there, you have at least some evidence from which to proceed. Of course, you have to look particularly at the terminal dates anel the circumstances surrounding the person's departure from the Communist Party. Anel you have to notice what his relationships with Communists have been since that time. All these facts provide information which isn't available in evaluating the testimony of someone who has never, from all outward evielence, been in the Communist Party. There, you would have no starting point." Mr. Morris cited as an example the testimony of Whittaker Chambers. "We were able to assess his testimony," he pointeel out, "because he specifically said that he was in a certain unit of the Communist Party — that he worked with a man named Beekoff, and he diel certain things. By going out and following up on all these particular leads, we were able- to assess their value. You really had no starting point in connection with Alger Hiss, who denied these things. So therefore, answering your question in a long-winded way, I say that very often it is easier to assess the testi- Page 36 mony of a person who says he has been a Communist and has broken away, than a person who denies having been a Communist." Soviets Sensitive to Publicity Mr. Doherty brought up the point that a person in a position similar to that eif Thomas Black could come forward and testify, anel still fear possible- retribution at the hands of Red agents. "Suppose that a man gets clearance," he theorized, "what is to prevent those agents from threatening him again unless he continues acting as a spy?" "The mere fact that he had publicly taken the stand and is now a name in the news is a wonderful guarantee against such an occurrence," state-el Mr. Morris. "If he is again approached by a Soviet agent, he has only to tell the FBI or the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee about that particular overture, and immeeliately it would come right into the public eye." Mr. Morris stressed that the Soviets have an extremely acute sense of public relations, and would do nothing Soviet Union anel the Soviet satellite* They are doing it, not because they want people back there (because as some witnesses have recently pointed out, the individual countries are trying to get their war prisoners out of the Soviet Union), but so that they can hold them up before worlel public opinion. Let's take the case of tbe five Stiviet seamen who we-nt back — they can say 'Look, these five people spent eight months in the Unite-el States. They were able to see what that country stood for, and yet they elected to return here to the Soviet Union.' " Mr. Doherty mentioned that the Soviet had bungled that job by leaving a bloeiely shirt behind, proving that these sailors had been shanghaied and kidnapped. "Well, they bungled in many ways, acknowledged Mr. Morris, "but the fact remains that they were able to get five of them back. "Tbe Internal Security Subcommittee was able to bring out some eif the information that was reposing in the files of eiur intelligence organizations, Mr. Morris continued, "anel bv so CHAMBERS BENTLEY BUDENZ CROUCH DODD "The only evidence that a committee such as ours can obtain about the secrets of the Commuri,s underground is from the witnesses themselves — from the people who have been in the Communis that would cause them diplomatic or political embarrassment. "An overture now to Thomas Black with respect to giving him another assignment, or making an approach to him," he saiel, "if reported and publicized would be a terrific setback which in my opinion they would not risk in any circumstane-e-s." "Well, that brings us to what I consider the $64,000 question," said Mr. Doherty. "Mr. Morris, how extensive is Soviet espionage in this country today?" "It is more extensive than I believe anyone realizes," Mr. Morris disclosed. "Now, in connection with this series of hearings dealing with just the redefection campaign — Soviets, as you know, all over the world are trying to draw people back into the doing were- able- to offset that origin* redefection to a great extent. "Now I submit to you," he declare* "that if you eliel not have an insttt" tion such as a congressional commit-* that could bring out these facts, the' they must gather elust in the files " our intelligence organizations, anel » important element in your democrat1 society would be lost. I think, really-' shows in a rather dramatic way tt1 need for an institution such as a cO" gressional committee to dramatize ;l these things that otherwise would & lost to public knowledge." Mr. Hurleigh emphasized that eV** though the committee did show «•* the- return of the Soviet seamen w^ shanghai job, and proved in this CO-1 tiy that this was a forced retufj1' through such evidence as the bio" Facts Forum News, October, i™
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