in the U. S. A.
"Soviet espionage in the United States today is more
extensive than I believe anyone realizes," warns Judge
Robert Morris, Chief Counsel of the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee. A recognized authority on the subject,
Judge Morris stresses in this interview the value of our
congressional committees in exposing to public view
information which is vital to continued freedom.
wiiek WEEiEi.n pnen-o
"What success has the Committee
had in wresting information on subversive activities from recent witnesses?"
"How does America guard
"Should the Communist Party be
outlawed in this country?"
Mn. Morris, a recent guest of
Reporters' Roundup Radio
program, was barrage-el with
these and other challenging epie'stions
by \ t-teran newsmen Jack Doherty, of
the New York Daily News, and Douglas Larsen, of tbe Newspaper Enterprise Association. Moderator Robert F.
Hurleigh, Mutual commentator and
director of Washington Operations for
Mutual Broadcasting System skillfully
guided the discussion, reepiesting further clarification when necessary.
As pointed out by Mr. Hurleigh,
congressional committees have been
studying the problems and dangers
from subversion of communism for
some twenty years. Yet each new investigation reveals skillful communistic infiltration anel naive opposition by
many in this country to the dangers
Mr. Hurleigh paid tribute to Mr.
Morris's recognized position as one of
the foremost anti-Communist investigators in the United States. A naval
counter-intelligence officer during
World War II. Mr. Morris later, during 1953 and 1954, serve-el as Chief
Counsel of the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, and was Judge ol
the- Municipal Court in New Yeirk until
his return in January, 1956, to the position of Chief Counsel of the Washington subcommittee. In this capacity beheads the current Senate investigations into the- scope of Soviet activity
in the United States, anel the dangers
Opening the questioning, Mr. Larsen asked, "Mr. Morris, are- U. S. laws
governing espionage in this country
strong enough? Do they do the trick?"
Convictions Set Aside
"That is precisely what the Subcommittee is looking into now." replied
Mr. Morris. "As you know, we have
walking the streets today many people
who epiite obviously have been established to be Communist agents — and
even Soviet agents. Without mentioning too many particular cases, there
have been some very important ones
in New York City wherein the jury
founel the particular witness guilty.
Cemvictions, however, have often been
set aside on legal grounds of some-
kinel. I have one case in minel in which
the appellate court judge declared that
there was no doubt that the- defendant
was guilty; however, because of a
technicality it was necessary to declare
her to be free. We- are examining such
cases as this to finel out whether there
can be any tightening up of the internal security laws."
Askeel by Mr. Larsen if there was
hope- of ge-tting immediate corrective
legislation as a result of the Subcommittee's hearings, Mr. Morris indicated
that there was a definite hope that this
might be accomplished.
"For instance-," he- explained, "we
brought to the surface- just recently a
condition that exists in the country
today which is being exploited by the
Soviet Union as well as by Soviet
"As a result of the unfortunate decisions maelei at Yalta," he pointed out,
"there are- refugees here in the United
States, variously estimated as between
twenty and forty thousand people, living under false papers. The Communists are finding out who these people
arc and threatening them with exposure to the immigration authorities
unless they elo their particular bieleling.
Legislation Will Abolish Threat
"That poses a definite- threat to the
security of the- country," he- continued,
"anel the Internal Security Subecommit-
tee will launch a thorough investigation into the- situation. Legislation is
also being prepared which will rem-
e-ely the dangers involved."
Facts Forum News, October, 1956